Interview with Stephen Morris and Family, 1 Interview with Stephen Morris and Family

Martial Arts Practitioners
Ann Arbor, Michigan, August 1999 / June 2000


       I sat down with the Morris family and friends in the Eastern Accents restaurant on Main Street on a Saturday afternoon in August of 1999.  They had just come from their weekly class at the nearby Asian Martial Arts Studio.  I had met Erin Morris a few days earlier at the same café, and was impressed by her energy, as well as by the intensity of her attention or awareness of the moment.  Talking to her, I was reminded of William Blake’s famous aphorism: “Energy is beauty.”  
       Still a high school student, Erin was not only active in martial arts, but was also a cross-country runner and horse trainer, as well as talented writer and musician.  As she recited her long list of activities, I wondered whether her martial arts training had something to do with the quality of her attention and energy, and this was what I set out to discover in my interview with her and her family.
       “I’m involved because I was raised to be involved,” Erin said.  “I didn’t have much choice.  But I stuck with it because I love it.  My mother was still nine months pregnant with me when she was doing her aikido rolls in class.”
       “No, no,” her mother protested.  “I was eight months pregnant when I stopped, and I wasn’t doing the rolls.” Erin’s mother started in martial arts in 1978 with Tai Kwon Do.  “She kicked butt,” Erin proclaimed proudly.  She had always been physically active, and a friend of hers was in a class, and convinced her to start.  “I met Laura when she was already a black belt in Tai Kwon Do, and I had been doing karate, Okinawan karate, for about a year,” Stephen said.  
       I asked how they would explain the martial arts to someone who didn’t know anything about it. “Basically, the martial arts is something that evolved from being pure combat-oriented self-defense technique to a method of self-improvement and cultivation of the self, physically, mentally, and spiritually,” Stephen replied.  “Like anything, you get out of it what you put into it.  Essentially, we use the martial arts as a mirror to examine ourselves.”    
       Stephen offered a brief history of the martial arts, focusing on their development in Japan, which had the greatest impact on molding them into the form in which most people practice them today.  “There was a big shift in Japan from samurai times,” he explained.  “All the arts that we study were called jui jitsu forms, which means fighting arts.  What we now study as judo was originally jui jitsu.  There was a transition from the jui jitsu arts to what became do, which is from the Chinese word Tao or the Path, using them as a path to self-awareness and self-enlightenment.  It doesn’t have to be martial arts.  In the Japanese culture you can use anything—the tea ceremony, or calligraphy—to reach the same goals of self-awareness.”
       I was having trouble understanding how such activities could be used as what Stephen had referred to as a mirror.  “It forces you to look at yourself on a deeper level,” Stephen said.  “When you’re doing judo or karate, or you’re trying to improve your technique, you’re constantly becoming aware of your failings or weaknesses.  You can either choose to not see those, pretend they don’t exist, or if you have the correct attitude you look at them [as offering] a chance to improve.”
       “A lot of times you’ll go through the same mistakes over and over again,” their friend offered, “but you’ll ask yourself: ‘Why is this happening?  Why is this happening?’  And you may not get the answer right away.  But eventually it will come, and it will come in surprising ways.”   I pressed him for an example.  There was a brief silence at the table, and then Erin spoke up.  “Sometimes they’re hard to notice.  A lot of times it’s like just another step along the way of maturing.  There aren’t usually any startling revelations that suddenly just come to you.  It’s a lot more subtle than that.”
       “Instead of mechanically, physically just trying to do it correctly,” Laura elaborated, “I’ve had to figure out that I needed to develop a feeling and a sensitivity for what I was doing.”  Her point seemed to be that this practice could make one aware of having to bring that same sensitivity to bear in other aspects of one’s life.    
       “At the higher level of competence in all the martial arts, they tend to have the same goals,” Stephen said.  A good martial artist, whether they’re in judo, aikido, or kung fu, once they reach a certain level, they have certain abilities in terms of being able to move and balance.  But each of the martial arts has their own specialties and their own points of departure in how they reach those goals.  In karate, in the beginning, we focus very much on linear power and force—kicking and punching in straight lines.  In aikido, we focus on circular motion, redirecting that linear force, moving in circles, and spherical motions.  But also, in a way, aikido needs to have force in linear fashion, and karate needs to flow in a circle, as well.  So they start from seemingly contrary positions, but at the higher levels they blend all these principles together.”
       I asked if there was a single spiritual principle that was at the heart of martial arts.  “The Japanese tradition of martial arts drawn heavily on Zen Buddhism,” Stephen explained.  The qualities of inner reflection are very important, spiritually as well as physically.  If you want to improve yourself, you have to be able to look at yourself honestly.  The whole idea that it’s an individual quest is opposed to a Western monotheistic religion that puts God up here, and you’re always trying to please God.  The Buddhist tradition is that divinity is within you, and you’re trying to discover it.”
       I commented on the sense of energy and balance that I felt they all possessed.  “That’s one of the things that you really work to achieve,” Erin replied.  In the ancient times, back in Japan, you’d spend so many hours per day training in martial arts and then you’d have to learn to balance it with the rest of your life, with outside chores, and family.  The whole thing is about achieving an inner balance within yourself that helps you to cope with that life outside the dojo.”        
       I observed that there were other spiritual groups that use contemplation techniques for the same purpose.  “Can the martial arts be likened to a contemplation technique?” I inquired.  “Absolutely,” Stephen said.  “The kata forms that we practice are really, at the highest level, considered moving meditations.”
       I thanked the family for the interview, and decided to follow it up with a visit to the Asian Martial Arts studio, which was just a couple of doors down.  I asked to speak to a representative of the studio, but was told he was out.  I left my name and number, and called back several times, but never succeeded in getting an appointment.  Various other affairs came up, and I didn’t get a chance to complete the article I had planned.
        Interview with Stephen Morris and Family, 2Ten months went by.  It was now June 2000.  I like to finish things that I start, and the uncompleted article was nagging at me.  I decided to visit the Asian Martial Arts studio again.  The studio was virtually empty when I arrived.  The place had an immense parquet floor that shined as if just cleaned and polished, and there were several large, framed plaques with Chinese calligraphy on the walls.  No amount of cleanliness, however, could mask the very palpable odor of sweat.  A young black man in a sweat-soaked T-shirt greeted me, and smiled broadly as he looked directly into my eyes and pumped my hand vigorously.  After I explained my purpose, he handed me off to another young man who was equally friendly.
       “I’d like to do a brief interview with a representative of the studio and take a few pictures,” I said.
       “Let me just check on that for you,” he replied.  He disappeared and came back in only a few seconds.  “I don’t wish to appear rude,” he said, “but we can’t grant you an interview at this time.”
       “Not at this time?  How about later?” I asked.
       “I’m sorry,” he shook his head.
       “I don’t think you understand.  I would submit the article to you beforehand…”
       The young man seemed discomfited.  “Perhaps if you submitted a formal request, along with a business card…”
       I told him I would do so, left, and returned within an hour with a typed letter and card.  This time, there were a number of people milling around the entrance to the studio.  A very tall, beefy young man with a short ponytail stepped in front of me.
       “Who are you looking for?” he demanded.
       “The young man I was talking to earlier,” I replied nonchalantly, refusing to react to his intimidating demeanor.
       “What did he look like?”  Again, I was struck by the belligerent tone.
       “Well, he was short…and friendly…” I stalled, looking around the hall.  Eventually, I spotted him.  “There he is!” I exclaimed.  As I started chatting with the young man I had spoken to earlier, the giant skulked away.  I left the letter and card, and he promised to call me back by the next day.  The call came only a few hours later, however, and again the response was negative.
       “I’m sorry,” the young man said, over the phone.  “The director will not allow any interviews or pictures.”
       “But I’m prepared to write a very flattering article,” I protested.  “Perhaps if I speak with the director, personally…”
       “That’s not possible.”
       “Can you even tell me the director’s name?”
       There was silence on the other end of the line.  “The mysterious director must be a megalomaniac,” I thought to myself.  A wave of anger washed over me.
       “You said earlier that you didn’t wish to appear rude,” I told the young man.  “But this really is rude.  There must be something wrong with this director of yours.”
       I hung up, amazed at the feeling the call had generated in me, and determined not to drop the matter.  I thought of Stephen Morris, and decided to call him to see if he had any pull with the director.  There were four people in the phone book with that name, so I decided to ring them up one by one.  I was lucky on the first call.  A young woman, whom I suspected was Erin, answered the phone.
       “Is this the home of Stephen and Laura Morris?” I asked.
       “Yes.”
       “Are either of them in?”
       “No.”
       “Whom am I speaking to?” I inquired.
       There was some hesitation on the line.  “This is Erin.”
       “Oh, hi,” I said.  “I don’t know if you remember, but I interviewed your family last August…”
       “Oh, god, yes,” she sounded surprised.
       I explained to her my recent experience at the dojo.  “I don’t understand it,” I told her.  “I’m so impressed with most of the people that are connected with that place.  They seem very spiritually aware.  You can’t help notice the light in their eyes.  And yet there are a few that come off as total jerks!  That director—I haven’t even met him, but…”
        Interview with Stephen Morris and Family, 3 “Yes,” she replied.  “He’s a very unpleasant man.  That’s partly why our family left that particular dojo.”
       “You don’t go there any more?”
       “No.  At the moment, we just attend classes at the ‘Y’.”
       I was intrigued by this development, called back later in the evening, spoke to Stephen, and arranged to meet him at the ‘Y’ the following weekend.  When we sat down, he took up his explanation of the martial arts where he had left off.
       “When you think about the martial arts,” he began, “there’s a dialectic involved.  In the traditional martial arts, they speak of a specific martial art as being either external or internal.  An external martial art is more focused on linear power.  A classic external martial art would be karate, where you kick and punch and develop power in a straight line.  Judo and kung fu are also considered external martial arts.  The more sophisticated the art gets, the more circular the motion becomes.  Typically, in Asia, a student would start with an external martial art.  It’s very good for learning about power and balance, and it’s good for physical fitness.  And then, if students were serious and continued with martial arts, they would begin to learn more of the internal martial arts, which have to do with circularity and redirecting power.  Rather than generating your own power, you’re learning to redirect an opponent’s power back against them.  Classic internal martial arts would be aikido in Japan and tai chi in China.  These are both very circular in nature, very defensive.”
        Interview with Stephen Morris and Family, 5 “It’s funny,” I replied.  “There was a question that I wanted to ask, but you may already have answered it, in a way.  I’m interested in what extent the martial arts are a spiritual discipline.  In our previous conversation, we agreed that anything could be a spiritual exercise, even doing an interview.  Still, there is an aspect to the martial arts that is almost like a spiritual path, but there is another aspect that is more like a sport.  This is one way that the dichotomy you mention is immediately evident to me.  And then what struck me just recently was my visit to the martial arts studio.  I met some people there who had such an amazing presence, it just bowled me over.  These were very spiritually charged people.  But there were also a couple of people who were just skulking around like bouncers in a strip club.  They just gave off a completely different vibration, if you understand what I mean.  It seems to me that this reflects another aspect of this dichotomy.  It’s the same thing with any spiritual path.  There are all sorts of people who join for all sorts of reasons.  Not everyone is really going through the same process or getting the same thing out of it.”
       “You’re absolutely right,” Stephen agreed.  “That’s the other aspect to this external/internal dichotomy.  Why do people train?  Some people train in the martial arts for external rewards.  They want to win a competition.  They want to get their black belt.  They want to reach a certain level of validation.  They want physical fitness so they can feel powerful.  And then there are people who train for internal rewards.  Every day that I go on the judo mat, it’s true that I’m contesting with other people, but my real opponent is myself.  I’m striving to improve my own technique every day, regardless of where I am in comparison to other people.”
       “So, it seems to me that if a person were oriented more toward the external rewards, there is a point at which they do become very powerful, but powerful for themselves alone.”
        Interview with Stephen Morris and Family, 4 “Absolutely.  And that’s sort of the dark side of the dark side of the martial arts.  That power, without control, is very dangerous.”
       “Right.  But I’ve found that it’s just as true of a spiritual path that doesn’t involve physical training.  You’ll find that there are people who are in it to gain power for themselves, in a very subtle way.”
       “It’s like being a businessman without any ethics,” Stephen observed.  He shouldered his gym bag, clapped me on the shoulder, and departed, while I gathered up my own equipment.
 
Date Submitted:
7/17/01
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